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Ghislaine Maxwell, partner of the late sexual offender Jeffrey Epstein, who was sentenced to 20 years in prison for sexual trafficking, told US authorities that there is no “list of clients” that has been spoken so much.
This appears in a transcription of an interview that was made public this Friday and that was held in July.
In the interview with the United States Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanche, Maxwell said that “he was not aware of any extortion” and that he did not witness any inappropriate conduct by President Donald Trump or former President Bill Clinton.
He also talked about his relationship and Epstein's with Prince Andrés from the United Kingdom and described as “amazingly inconceivable” accusations that the prince had sex with a minor at his home (Maxwell's).
Maxwell, who seeks Trump's pardon, has been accused of lying to federal officials.
The interview took place while Trump's government was under continuous pressure to reveal more information about Epstein – of whom Trump was a friend before, according to the president, they fought in 2004.
Shortly after the interview with Blanche -who previously worked as a Trump personal lawyer -Maxwell was transferred from his prison in Florida to another of low security in Texas. The reason for that transfer is not clear.
The White House has been categorical in stating that “no indulgence is being discussed or arguing in the case of Maxwell.
Transcripts
Maxwell currently celebrates a 20 -year sentence for sex trafficking, and has asked the United States Supreme Court to revoke his conviction.
His lawyer said that “they would host with pleasure” an pardon by the president.
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The pressure of the Trump Republican Party itself has also grown so that there is more transparency around Epstein investigations.
But the president has accused his political opponents of using the case to distract the attention of what he considers have been victories of his government.
In transcripts – which add up to 300 pages, some of them with many omitted words – Maxwell said that although he believes Trump and Epstein were cordial to each other “in social situations”, he does not believe they were close friends.
“Actually, I never saw the president in any type of massage environment,” he said, in allusion to massage services that some victims have said they were used to recruit them in the crimes committed by Epstein. “The president was never inappropriate with anyone.”
“In the times I was with him, he was a gentleman in every way,” he added.
He also said he does not remember that Trump sent Epstein a note about the 50th birthday of Epstein, in 2003, something that monopolized recently, after this note was reported on the Wall Street Journal.
High Profile Names
In the interview, Blanche also asked Maxwell about the alleged “customer list” of high -level personalities that has become the object of conspiracy theories in recent years.
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Maxwell was asked by other known figures, such as Bill Gates, Elon Musk, the former Israeli Minister Ehud Barak, the Secretary of Health and Human Services of the United States, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., actor Kevin Spacey, the model Naomi Campbell and Prince Andrés of the United Kingdom.
The list of high profile related had become a focal point for conspiracy theorists who insisted that it was being kept hidden by the “deep state” to protect prominent participants in Epstein's crimes.
Several figures of the Trump government – among them the director of the FBI, Kash Patel, and the deputy director, Dan Bongino – repeated those statements in the past, although since then they have retracted.
“There is no list,” said Maxwell.
“Rotnda falsehood”
He also referred to Prince Andrés, whose relationship with Epstein led him to abandon his functions within British royalty.
He described as “resounding falsehood” that she would have been the one who presented Epstein to Epstein to the Duke of York.
“First, let's establish that I did not introduce Prince Andrés,” he said.
He spoke extensively about Epstein's relationship with both Prince Andrés and York Duchess Sarah Ferguson.
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Maxwell also talked about the supposed relationship of Prince Andrés with a woman, whose name has been omitted in transcription.
He indicated that the accusations against the Duke of York seem “amazingly inconceivable”, partly due to the size of his house, where the facts allegedly took place.
They ask him about a “famous photo” of Prince Andrés and the unidentified woman, with Maxwell in the background. He replied to Blanche that the photo is false.
The prince was accused by Virginia Giuffre, who is not appointed in transcription, of sexually abusing her when she was 17 years old.
He denied the accusations, but reached an economic agreement with her in 2022, which did not contain any admission of responsibility or apology.
A very widespread photo shows the prince with Giuffre with Maxwell in the background. Andrés had already denied his authenticity.
Giuffre took his life at the beginning of the year. His family made a strong criticism of the Department of Justice for interviewing Maxwell and has said that it is a “monster” whose testimony cannot be trusted.
“Friends with benefits”
Speaking of his own friendship with Epstein, Maxwell said he became friends with him for the first time in 1991, and subsequently developed a sexual relationship with him.
Even after that relationship ended, he said that Epstein continued to pay – until US $ 250,000 a year in 2009 – and that they were still “friends with benefits.”
He added that his relationship was “almost non -existent” between 2010 until his death.
Maxwell was asked for his opinion on the death of Epstein, who committed suicide, in 2019, in a cell in the New York prison in which he was while waiting for his judgment for sexual trafficking positions.
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“I don't think he died from suicide, no,” he said, although he added: “I have no reason” to believe he was killed to silence him.
“It's ridiculous,” he said about the theories that he was killed. “I also think that if that is what they wanted, they would have had many opportunities when I was not in jail.”
“And if they worried the blackmail or anything else on their part, it would have been a very easy goal,” he added.
House of Representatives
Before the publication of the transcription, the pressure on Trump had increased – even by many of his own supporters and voices within his own political party – so that there was more transparency about what they discovered investigations on Epstein.
Earlier this year, reports arose that Trump had been informed by the United States Attorney General Pam Bondi, that his name appeared in the archives.
He has never accused him of any crime related to the case, and last year, during the electoral campaign, he said that he would publish more information about the case.
However, several months after his inauguration, he turned back and declared that the case was closed, criticizing his supporters and the journalists who continued to press him about it.
The AP news agency had reported that, on Friday, the Supervision Committee of the House of Representatives had received, from the Department of Justice, the first round of files he had requested under citation.
“The Committee intends to make these records public after an exhaustive review to ensure that any identification of victims and the material of child sexual abuse is omitted,” said a spokesman for the president of the Supervision Committee, James Eat, cited by US media.
“The Committee will also consult with the DOJ (Department of Justice) to ensure that the documents published do not negatively affect ongoing criminal cases and investigations.”
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